Did any of you guys hear anything about this. I have a buddy in NJ that does dents and he called and told me that Dent Wizard and any PDR is illegal now in NJ unless it is done by a licensed bodyshop with a fixed location.
yeah but from what I understand this will affect the mobile guys big time because unless you have a fixed location you will get a huge fine up to $10,000
they do that here in vegas, they wont let you get a "mobile window tinting lic" for auto so you have to rent a location, get the lic and offer "in shop" and "mobile" its just more $$ for the state, and they dont want you tinting cars in your garage lol. so it will suck to have shop rent overhead at least you wont be out of the job.. maybe you'll have to band together with some other pdr tecs and split the rent..stuff like that is big in vegas, they do it all day long for your "dealership lic" One person rents the space(closed down dr. office), gives each small office its own address and rents you the room so you can get a dealership lic. and go to the auctions.. people are shady ha ha lol
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If that's the case what will happen to the dealers that don't have a body shop? I would bet that they aren't going to send their cars to a BS to get PDR done.
no, u just have the shop to get the lic.. then you can offer "mobile" like delivering a pizza. they just want you to have a location to have a location.
"Nothing in this world can take the place of Persistence. Talent will not, Genius will not, Education will not"
I understand what you guys mean by having the license to have the license but they are saying that from this point forward you are not allowed to perform any kind of mobile repairs be it PDR or bumper repair unless you have a body shop license. Also even if you have a shop you would have to do the repairs in the shop and could not do it mobile away from that location. From what he told me they pretty much told all the DW techs to just go home untill further notice and the state said if they caught anyone doing any pdr or mobile paintwork the dealership would be fined 5 grand and the dent company 10 grand.
just fly under the radar. NJ is a communist state. What if you have a fixed location in another state, but you offer mobile service to nj? someone will have to spend the money on a good lawyer and take it to court.
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In NY I heard that was the case for the insurance companies. No such thing as a direct repair facility for just PDR. It had to go through a Body Shop. They cite a "conflict of interest."
Simple solution: Have a PDR shop with a body shop license. It's probably not that simple but there must be a way around it.
If you keep doing what you've always been doing, you'll keep getting what you've always been gettin
To have a body shop license in NJ, you must have I-car certifications, a frame machine, a mig welder and a bunch of other shit.
The only loop hole I've found so far is to claim you are doing "restoration" work and not "collision" work, and no license is needed. However, it all depends on how they define a collision. If a door opening into another door is considered a collision, then we are SOL.
So i guess that takes the glass companies, the carpet cleaners, message, touchup, interior repairs, errands companies. What about home base businesses? Whats the difference?
no Terry, they are targeting unlicensed body shops. The only way to be licensed is to have a fixed location and all required equipment and certifications. They consider pdr as a form of collision. We need to somehow get them to define collision as damage exceeding the limits of pdr, IMO.
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This is how they deffine body shops
[a.] "Auto body repair facility" means a business or person who
11 for compensation engages in the business of repairing, removing, [or]
12 installing or painting integral component parts of [an engine, power
13 train,] a chassis[,] or body of [an automobile] a motor vehicle
14 damaged as a result of a collision
Now, thats kinda broad so they have another deffintion for "collision"
I can't find where they deffine "collision" on the internet but trust me (I had a very unpleasent chat with the nj strom troppers!)it basicly says anything that hits a car/auto in any way shape or from is consider collision...thats how they enfroce this ass backward law.
Doesnt matter if you paint or dont paint.
Here are the fines...it can go up to 20grand
6. The director may issue and cause to be served, upon an auto
15 body repair facility charged with a violation of P.L.1983, c.360
16 (C.39:13-1 et seq.), an order requiring the auto body repair facility to
17 cease and desist operations and the director may impose upon an auto
18 body repair facility violating this act a civil penalty of not more than
19 [$2,000.00] $5,000 each for the first offense and not more than
20 [$5,000.00] $20,000 each for the second and each subsequent
21 offense. The civil penalty shall be issued for and recovered by and in
22 the name of the director and shall be collected and enforced by
23 summary proceedings pursuant to ["the penalty enforcement law"
24 (N.J.S.2A:58-1 et seq.)] the "Penalty Enforcement Law of 1999,"
25 P.L.1999, c.274 (C.2A:58-10 et seq.).
There is a way around this, it's a hugh hassle and alot of money for absoulty nothing!
If you are working at a body shop or a dealer who has a body shop, I dont see how they could bother you. You are technically working for a licensed body shop. Otherwise, dont fix dents. Just sell stickers to used car dealers that say "100% dent free car".
Nothing illegal about selling stickers in NJ, is there?
Life's a pitch, and then you buy! -Billy Mays, 2009
